In the last hour, TV star Ori Aduba has revealed that he has an addiction to pornography, and this is the very first time that he’s talked about it. It’s on Paul Canik Brunson’s We Need to Talk podcast. A year and a half ago, I was able to escape, an addiction that had dogged me for nearly 30 years. Less than what is it? Eight, seven, seven, eight. Wow. Nine.
Nine. Okay, that’s when my addiction started. Paul, the reason that I felt like I needed to speak about this is because I wanted to be able to guide my own children when it comes to it. I don’t think anybody was expecting that. Journalist Aisha Hazarika and Joe Elvin join me now. It is. Do you know what it’s really good he’s talking about this because it’s a massive problem and and young children these days are exposed to the kind of things that we never were.
you know, we just weren’t, you know, we just wasn’t just wasn’t part of your world, was it? No. I mean, it would be sort of teenage boys looking at the K’s catalog kind of thing and sort of health and fitness. Yeah, exactly. We’re a long way from Kansas now in terms of But it is really serious and I I I look this is I think this is must be really hard for him to talk about and it could have a lot of repercussions for his career and things like that.
So, I think it’s he is doing this and it will come at personal cost to him. But I think it’s so important for men to talk out about this. Yeah. Because we have a lot of conversations, rightly so, about women sounding the alarm bells in terms of what they’re seeing with their sons and their daughters because it isn’t just young men.
I think this kind of pornography is poisoning our society. It’s poisoning young men and also young women in terms of what is expected of them in terms of violence and and and sex being something that causes pain to to to a woman. So I think the fact that he is a man in the public eye who’s come out and talked about this.
I think this is quite a big moment. It really is. Yeah. It’s and apparently it’s, you know, follows on from uh new laws coming into play where online porn showing strangulation or suffocation. And I I feel like I’ve got to apologize because I think a lot of people listening probably wouldn’t realize that these are now the baseline norms in a lot of things that children are being exposed.
Unbelievable, isn’t it? Uh it’s being made illegal as part of the government’s plans to tackle violence against women and girls. Um and they’ve said the change would make choking in pornography a priority offense under the online safety act, putting on the same level as child sexual abuse material.

And this is the thing. It’s like we do obviously this is hugely damaging to girls because it’s it’s you know it just completely changes the expectation in sexual relationships. But I also think that you’re absolutely right Aisha. We need our fathers to talk to their sons about this. We need we need to try and somehow put that genie back in the box because I think that it’s actually ruining intimacy for a lot of young men as well who can’t form normal relationship.
No, you’re right. Because I mean, you know, when I was a kid, you sort of fumbled your way together, you know, and and there was love and there was respect. Um, and of course there was fun. It was fun. You know, this was the thing. Now there is no fun. There doesn’t seem to be to me. It’s it’s it’s just absolutely tragic.
Sending nudes between teenagers is now a apparently an accepted baseline requirement of quote unquote dating. But I think I think you hit the nail on the head there when you said it’s not fun anymore. This stuff, look, it’s it’s not always easy for young people to make their way in in this kind of world and and stuff, but I think what has happened now is something much darker.
So often uh you know we’re hearing you know we will all hear stories of kids as young as kind of 9 10 getting as soon as they get a phone and there was actually a campaigning group who bought a kind of completely sort of new phone and they went on sort of different social media sites and they just clicked on a few things and they set themselves up to be like a boy a young boy and within literally minutes they were getting kind of hardcore pornographic images.
So, it’s almost like right from the get-go when brains are still being formed at that very, very important age, they’re being told that kind of sex is not something fun and a bit innocent and then it’s something dark and quite violent right from the getgo. Someone needs to be accountable for this.
It’s just it’s absolutely shocking that this is just allowed to happen. This is what I don’t understand. It’s not It’s never been It’s not trying. I I’ll tell you who is a lot to blame. Chase the money on this. Who is making the money out of this? Right. And I’m afraid we are in a situation where he we have these tech bro overlords.

These lar not exclusively men but largely men who unseen they’re unaccountable. They make billions and billions and they are the people controlling what our kids are seeing and they’re making a lot of money unaccountable. So many exposed to it. I mean Ory goes on to talk about that. Let’s hear what he has to say. You hear that 60% of children are finding it accidentally that it’s cropping up on iPads that society it’s just so normal.
That’s the word that absolutely chills me to the bone. It’s normal. Yep. It’s normal. That sort of thing. And we it may look I think the genie is probably out the bottle. But I think with politicians, media platforms like this, I’m afraid people in the technology sector as well, we have got a collective responsibility because something so dark and I’d say depraved is sort of stirring in our society.
You look at the rise in terms of violence and misogyny against young women and girls and older women as well. And also the unhappiness amongst a lot of men as well because this is not good for them either. This is not what a normal happy kind of you know peaceful relationship looks like. And it’s the way that he talks about an addiction, you know, I mean, an addiction is that’s a really strong word to to use, but I mean, that’s clearly something that, you know, you talk about addiction to heroin and and addiction to booze and
all of that. It’s just so relentlessly available. It’s, you know, and I think that that that dopamine hit must become harder to chase. And that’s where the addiction comes from. And he said he wants to talk about it for his for his children that actually, like you said, this is going to have repercussions for him. Yeah.
for these relationships um for for all sorts of things. I really hope it’s it’s met with compassion because it’s very brave and it’s a conversation that’s well overdue. Absolutely. And particularly in a world where, you know, a lot of young men are being influenced by these really malign players like Andrew Tate and others.
It is very good to see a man in the public eye stand up and talk about something, you know, different and talk about the harm it’s done him as well and how he wants to protect the next generation. Nine years old. nine that that happened to him. It’s crazy. I would like to see him explore this more. Yeah. Maybe with documentaries, maybe, you know, with a campaign.
I think he could do wonderful things. He could turn something that obviously is humiliating and embarrassing and destructive into something positive. We would absolutely. Thank you. Thank you both. Um yeah, I mean we we were going to talk about the John Lewis advert because they’ve um released their ad this morning. It’s it’s um interestingly centering around relationships between a father and a son.
Let’s let’s have a we look at a bit of it. Yeah, we’re saying it’s the music that gets to you. Wasn’t very Christmassy. The jingle bells and the roast. I want jingle bells. I want Santa. I want Rudolph. I want all of us. I want noise. It’s interesting. It’s It’s a different view of masculinity. This is what we were just talking about.

But um I don’t I just I don’t like this time of year when I’m just told to be manipulated and cry from a Christmas ad. It’s a Christmas ad. Also, just a bit I know we’re like it’s just I feel it’s a bit too soon. It’s a bit too soon. It’s a bit too soon. I always say get November the 5th Bonfire Night out the way and then it’s a bit too soon.
I agree. Absolutely. Thank you both very much. Thank you. Well, that’s a wrap for this video. We hope you enjoyed it. We have all the best moments from the show right here on the channel. And if you like this video, then we think you’ll love this one. See you next time.