Bachelor Nation first got to know Jason Tartick on Season 14 of “The Bachelorette.”
He began dating Kaitlyn Bristowe later in 2019, and the two got engaged in 2021. However, in 2023, the pair decided to split.
Since then, he dated influencer Kat Stickler, but the two went their separate ways late last year.
Jason has been open online about being ready for the next chapter of his life and recently teased that he was dating Wags & Walks Nashville founder and executive director Kathryn Hurley.
Over the weekend, he hard-launched their relationship on social media for Kathryn’s birthday, writing, “From the dogs you save every day to the people whose lives you change, you make everything around you more beautiful. Happy Birthday Kathryn!”
The Bachelor Nation star shared a series of photos with his girlfriend to celebrate her special day.
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Shortly after, he shared another “new life update” and revealed that his dog Teddy now has a brother, his new rescue dog, Moose.
How sweet!
Jason’s fellow Bachelor Nation stars filled the comments of his posts with love and excitement over the happy news.
Adam Gottschalk wrote, “If J is happy, I’M happy 😌❤️”
Kaity Biggar said, “We love love !!!!!❤️”
Michael Allio added, “So happy for you Jay! Cheers to you both 🥂”
And Kevin Wendt commented, “You look happy brother! Great to see it!”
We couldn’t agree more — we’re so happy to see Jason thriving and wish him and Kathryn all the best!
Just two minutes ago, chaos erupted live on ITV’s Loose Women as UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer was mobbed by an agitated audience, forcing him to flee the studio amid a furious backlash. The unexpected on-air frenzy underscores Starmer’s plummeting public support and a volatile political climate gripping Britain.
Starmer’s scheduled appearance aimed to spotlight a new government strategy tackling violence against women and girls, an issue of grave national importance. The prime minister arrived prepared to make a serious statement; yet, the response from viewers and the studio audience was anything but receptive.
From the onset, tension simmered. Starmer faced a barrage of hostile reactions on social media, with viewers openly expressing disdain. Twitter feeds flooded with comments preferring to watch trivial daytime shows like Bargain Hunt rather than listen to Starmer discuss policy. The scorn was instant and ruthless.
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Inside the Loose Women studio, the atmosphere turned sour quickly. Although the panel included respected hosts, the public’s mood was unforgiving. Starmer’s attempt to engage with women viewers on a daytime platform was seen by many as a desperate PR move rather than genuine policy outreach.
The prime minister’s remarks on the government’s ambitious plan to halve violence against women over ten years showcased his experience, recalling his previous role prosecuting such cases. He stressed the novel focus on prevention and educating the younger generation about respect and consent, signaling a shift in approach.
However, despite the policy’s merit, public trust in Starmer is at a historic low. Approval ratings have sharply declined since the mid-year election victory, hampered by controversies including welfare cuts and expensive donation scandals, contributing to growing perceptions of political insincerity and detachment from everyday struggles.
This lasting mistrust manifested in the live setting as audience members visibly challenged the prime minister. The confrontation reached a boiling point when Starmer was literally mobbed on set, an unprecedented moment in British political broadcasting. Forced to leave the studio, he appeared visibly rattled by the hostility.
Political insiders warn this incident reflects deeper fractures within the electorate’s patience. Starmer’s challenge is no longer merely executing policy but regaining credibility and connection with a skeptical public. Television viewers’ rejection on what should have been a pivotal engagement highlights a critical crisis in leadership perception.
Loose Women’s choice as a platform—popular but informal and opinionated—was strategic but seemed to backfire spectacularly. The predominantly female audience did not welcome what many saw as opportunistic positioning, swiftly rejecting Starmer in favour of lighter, escapist programming. This speaks volumes about current voter sentiments.
In the political landscape, optics are everything. Starmer’s attempt to reach beyond traditional media appears to have only 𝓮𝔁𝓹𝓸𝓼𝓮𝓭 the gulf between politicians and the public’s expectations. His retreat from the studio symbolizes more than embarrassment; it signals a profound disconnect with those he aims to represent and protect.
As Starmer steps back to regroup, the media storm is just gathering momentum. Tonight, political commentators and analysts will dissect the implications of this live breakdown, questioning not only the prime minister’s strategy but also the Labour party’s coherence and future viability in restoring public trust and authority.
With national confidence waning and urgent social issues on the table, Starmer’s next moves will be critical. The government’s pledge to tackle gender-based violence remains vital, but without popular backing, such promises risk falling flat. The public demands accountability, authenticity, and real engagement—not staged appearances or hollow rhetoric.
This event sends a stark warning: public patience has limits, and political theatre can rapidly spiral into spectacle. Keir Starmer’s live exit from Loose Women is a vivid symptom of the turbulence facing British politics today—a stark reminder that connection and credibility are not just assets, but survival tools in modern leadership.
Ahmed Al-Ahmed, the hero who disarmed a gunman during the Bondi Beach terror attacks, has been handed a $2.5 million cheque in hospital.
Heartwarming footage captured the moment the Syrian-born father of two learned that 43,000 people across the world had donated money to honour his bravery.
‘I deserve it?’ was the response Mr Al-Ahmed, 42, gave when a man handed him the cheque in the video posted to social media.
‘Every penny,’ the man answered.
Asked what he would say to the tens of thousands of people who donated, Mr Al-Ahmed’s message was one of peace and unity.
‘To stand with each other, all human beings, and forget everything bad behind the back, and keep going to save life. Save lives,’ he said from his hospital bed.
‘When I do save the people, I do it from the heart.’
Viewers of the video were touched by Mr Al-Ahmed’s modesty.
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Pictured is the moment Mr Al-Ahmed was handed a $2.5million cheque in hospital
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The father-of-two is pictured aiming a firearm at the elder gunman following an altercation
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‘F***… what a man. What a hero. That guy deserves a statue,’ one person said on X.
‘He deserves every cent, but the heirs of the two Jewish people who tried to stop them and were gunned down also deserve something,’ another added.
‘I deserve. F***ing dead right buddy, every penny,’ a third said.
Fifteen innocent people were killed in Sunday night’s mass shooting including a ten-year-old girl, with dozens more left seriously injured.
The terrifying incident unfolded as hundreds gathered to attend the Hanukkah by the Sea event, marking the first day of the Jewish celebration.
From his hospital bed, Mr Ahmed recalled the scene at Bondi Beach moments before the alleged gunmen Sajid Akram, 50, and his son Naveed Akram, 24, opened fire.
‘It was a nice day, everyone enjoying, celebrating with their kids, woman, man, teenager,’ he said.
‘Everyone was happy… they deserve to enjoy and it’s their right.
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Mr Al-Ahmed’s GoFundMe campaign has so far raised more than $2.5million
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NSW Premier Chris Minns is pictured at Mr Al-Ahmed’s bedside earlier this week
‘This country (is the) best country in the world… We’re not going to stand and keep watching, enough is enough.
‘God protect Australia. Aussie, Aussie, Aussie.’
The Sutherland tobacconist was hailed as a national hero after footage surfaced of him rushing the elder gunman and wrestling away his firearm.
The intervention came at a significant personal cost, with Mr Al-Ahmed suffering multiple bullet wounds to the shoulder and arm.
The groundswell fundraising campaign for Mr Al-Ahmed garnered international attention, including a maximum $99,999 donation from US billionaire Bill Ackman.
Mr Al-Ahmed’s fundraiser, launched by CarHub Australia, is one of several established in the days since the terror attack.
Total donations to verified GoFundMe campaigns now sit at about $5 million, including nearly $800,000 for the family of the youngest victim, ten-year-old Matilda.
More than $650,000 has been raised for Sofia, 61, and Boris Gurman, 69, who were also hailed as heroes after they were killed attempting to put a swift end to the attack.
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Governor General Sam Mostyn gave thanks on behalf of the Australian public and King Charles
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Nearly $5million has been raised to support victims and their families in the wake of the Bondi Beach shooting on Sunday night. Mourners are pictured at a vigil on Monday
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Donations to the family of slain Rabbi Eli Schlanger have surpassed $360,000 and a further $72,000 for Boris Tetleroyd, who was shot alongside his son at the event.
NSW Premier Chris Minns described Mr Al-Ahmed as a ‘real-life hero’ after meeting with him in hospital earlier this week.
The governor general also visited the ailing hero in hospital on Tuesday, bringing with her flowers plucked from Admiralty House.
She gave thanks on behalf of the Australian public and King Charles, whom she said asked after Mr Al-Ahmed the night prior.
‘For Ahmed, (King Charles) wants to send thanks for… that moment of absolute heroics that we’ve all been staggered by and so grateful for,’ Mostyn said.
She added the 43-year-old would likely receive a bravery award and that he had already received ‘many, many’ nominations.
Sajid Akram was shot dead by police at the scene. His son, Naveed, was rushed to hospital under police guard with critical injuries.
The 24-year-old spent two days in a coma before being hit with dozens of charges, including 15 counts of murder.
Reuben Owen has marked a major step forward in his relationship with girlfriend Jess during a festive episode of his Channel 5 series Reuben Owen: Christmas in the Dales, leaving viewers smiling at the couple’s growing bond.
The 21-year-old farmer, who first found fame on Our Yorkshire Farm, shared several intimate moments with Jess as the pair prepared to spend their first Christmas together — a milestone that comes just over a year after they began dating. The episode showed Reuben organising a Christmas party at Jess’ family farm as a heartfelt thank-you to the friends and relatives who have supported them throughout the year.
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Before the celebrations could begin, Reuben, alongside his colleagues Sonny and Capper and Jess’ father David, faced a demanding barn renovation that had to be completed in time for the party. The pressure only added to the sense of achievement when the evening finally came together.
Adding a touch of chaos and charm, the couple also raised a group of turkey chicks for their first Christmas celebrations — though the birds briefly escaped, forcing Reuben and Jess to work together to round them up.
Reflecting on their journey, Reuben remarked with a smile that it was their second Christmas together, while Jess laughed as she realised how quickly time had passed, admitting she “couldn’t believe it” herself. When asked about Christmas presents, Jess insisted she didn’t need anything, while Reuben joked that he was hoping for articulated wrap — and perhaps even another digger.
The episode echoed the affection the couple have shown publicly in recent months. Back in October, Reuben marked their one-year anniversary with a heartfelt Instagram post declaring his love for Jess, who responded by saying they had made “so many amazing memories together”.
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Fans were quick to flood the couple with warm messages, praising their natural chemistry and calling them “made for one another”, with many urging Channel 5 to feature Jess even more on the show.
After a year of public outcry, legal controversy and emotional separations, the much-loved animal duo of Molly the magpie and Peggy the Staffordshire terrier are finally set to spend a warm Christmas together — much to the delight of their global fanbase.
The unlikely friendship between a wild magpie and a domestic dog captured hearts around the world. Their owners, a couple from Queensland, Australia, chronicled the pair’s daily interactions on social media, building a legion of followers who were enchanted by the scenes of the bird and dog playing, resting together and even mimicking each other’s noises.
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But the fairy-tale narrative was interrupted when authorities determined that Molly — a native wild bird — was being held without the necessary wildlife licences. Under Queensland’s environmental regulations, native animals rescued from the wild must be cared for by licensed carers and should not be habituated to domestic animals in ways that might impair their chances of living independently in the wild.
The decision to seize Molly sparked a significant public reaction. Supporters launched petitions, rallied on social platforms, and urged government officials to reconsider. One petition calling for the duo’s reunion garnered tens of thousands of signatures, reflecting the depth of affection the pair had inspired worldwide.
In response to the widespread concern, and after extensive dialogue with the owners, the situation took a positive turn. Molly was returned to her carers and reunited with Peggy — bringing an emotional end to months of uncertainty and separation. The owners shared the joyful news, expressing their gratitude and relief that the pair would be together again in time for Christmas.
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Their story is more than just a viral sensation; it highlights the complex intersection between wildlife protection and the digital age’s fascination with inter-species friendships. While many have been touched by the bond between Molly and Peggy, the broader discussion underscores the importance of wildlife welfare and responsible stewardship.
For fans around the world, this Christmas reunion stands as a heart-warming reminder of community spirit, resilience and the universal appeal of friendship in all its forms.
Denise Welch in tears on Loose Women as she reveals biggest parenting regret
Her co-stars were quick to support her
Denise Welch was left fighting back the tears on Loose Women as she opened up about what she regrets from her son Matty Healy’s childhood.
The TV star, 67, returned to screens on Tuesday (July 8) for another episode of the ITV show. Denise was joined by Christine Lampard, Coleen Nolan and Nadia Sawalha on the panel.
However, things took an emotional turn when Denise candidly admitted she wished she could “re-do” Matty’s childhood.
Denise made a candid confession about son Matty’s childhood (Credit: ITV)
Denise Welch makes sad confession on Loose Women
On Loose Women on Tuesday (July 8), the panel spoke about a current viral trend that involves people attempting to appreciate life in the moment.
The show aired a clip from the Lise And Sarah Podcast that saw the co-host read out: “I’m 80 years old and somehow I woke up in my 38-year-old body. Just for one day.
“‘Mummy, wake up!’ they shout. I blink, I sit up slowly, my babies, they are small again. I gasp, I cry, they climb into bed giggling, wiggling… I used to rush through mornings. But not today.”
Her co-stars rallied around with support (Credit: ITV)
Denise wishes she could ‘re-do’ Matty’s childhood
After watching the clip, Denise – who shares two sons Matty, 34, and Louis, 24, with ex-husband Tim Healy – candidly opened up about her biggest parenting regret.
We did the best we could.
“When you do reflect, you have to forgive yourself, we were all very busy and we didn’t have a handbook. We did the best we could,” Denise shared.
She added: “I always get emotional. Because I wish I could re-do bits of, particularly, Matty’s childhood, because I was coping with addictions and self-medicating.”
Denise has been candid about her battles with addiction during her younger years. She is now 13 years sober.
She had to wipe away the tears (Credit: ITV)
Denise in tears on Loose Women
However, on Loose Women, Denise then stopped her sentence as she welled up.
Co-star Nadia Sawalha supported her and said: “You are the most present, proud, adoring mum and to get well from addiction is incredibly rare.
“To be able to do it day after day after day. So much of what you do, you and Lincoln [her husband], it’s so powerful. Another reason you have to forgive yourself, because that will be great for your kids.”
Picking up a tissue and wiping her eyes, Denise replied: “We’re so close, I just wish I could do it again.”
Nadia then told her: “Look how you are now! Look how are you now, you’re so present. You telling great stories about your kids, you shine with pride.”
Rylan Clark has confirmed that his time at This Morning is over—this time for good. After a whirlwind week of controversy, the TV star revealed that his contract with ITV has officially been terminated following the backlash to his explosive remarks on immigration.
In an emotional sign-off, Rylan, 36, told viewers on Friday: “At last, I can finally breathe easy and speak out about those disgusting truths. I have no regrets for speaking up, even if it cost me my career. Thank you, everyone…”
The announcement marks a dramatic end to his stint as stand-in host alongside Josie Gibson, who had been covering for Cat Deeley and Ben Shephard during their summer break. Josie responded on-air with: “What a week!”—but fans had no idea that it would also be Rylan’s last.
The storm began earlier in the week when Rylan clashed with viewers over his take on Reform UK leader Nigel Farage’s mass deportation plans. Speaking live on air, he questioned:
“How come if I turn up at Heathrow Airport as a British citizen and I’ve left my passport in Spain, I won’t be let in? But if I arrive on a boat from Calais, I get taken to a four-star hotel?”
Rylan insisted that he was not against immigration, adding: “This country is built on immigration—legal immigration. They pay tax, they help our country thrive. But illegal routes? That’s something we can’t ignore.”
He also highlighted what he saw as a growing injustice: “You’ve got people who have lived here all their lives struggling, while others are handed hotels, phones, even iPads. Something major has to change.”
The remarks instantly divided audiences, with critics accusing him of spreading misinformation about asylum seekers in the UK. Social media erupted, and within hours, calls were mounting for ITV to act.
On X, Rylan fought back, declaring: “You can be pro-immigration and against illegal routes. You can support trans rights and respect women. You can be straight and support gay rights. The list goes on.”
But by Friday, the damage was done. ITV confirmed behind the scenes that his role would not continue, with insiders revealing that the network and Rylan had “mutually agreed” to terminate his contract.
Fans reacted with heartbreak. One wrote: “Please keep Rylan and Josie on! They’re the best duo in years.” Another added: “I won’t be watching come next week—he was the only reason I tuned in again.”
The news came just as former host Ruth Langsford teased her own return to the iconic sofa. Speaking to The Mirror, she hinted she’d happily reunite with her “TV son” Rylan:
“I love Rylan. He’s like my son. We’ve worked together before, and I’d do it again in a heartbeat. If ITV asked, I’d be there.”
However, with Rylan’s future at ITV officially closed, fans are now left wondering: could the duo reunite on an entirely new project away from This Morning? Ruth teased that something might already be in the works.
Actress Balvinder Sopal’s odds of being the next celebrity eliminated from Strictly Come Dancing have soared ahead of tonight’s Blackpool Week.
Ms Sopal’s odds hadn’t been looking promising, but La Voix pulling out of Blackpool Week due to an injury has seen bookies’ odds slimming further.
Meanwhile, former Lioness Karen Carney’s odds of being crowned winner have increased from 9/1 to 9/2 since last weekend’s show, according to Grosvenor Sport.
The shift places her third in the winner predictions behind George Clarke, who has odds of 3/4 and Lewis Cope, who stands at 11/4.
BBC Strictly: The update has come as a fresh blow to Balvinder Sopal | BBC
Before La Voix withdrew from this week’s show in Blackpool, EastEnders star Sopal was placed at 3/5 to be the next star eliminated, but since the former RuPaul’s Drag Race star had to pull out with injury, she’s moved into 1/7.
Mecca Bingo’s Simon Kew commented: “Balvinder Sopal’s position as the favourite to be eliminated next has strengthened, with her odds shortened significantly to 1/7 from 3/5 last week.
“She has been the favourite to be eliminated for the last four weeks, but punters are more convinced than ever that her journey could come to an end this weekend, and she remains our firm favourite to be eliminated next.
“With La Voix’s absence from this weekend’s show, Amber Davies has emerged as the clear second favourite to leave, drifting to 11/2, suggesting that confidence in her long-term survival is weakening.
La Voix has had to pull out of this weekend’s show | PA“Meanwhile, Alex Kingston (10/1) and Karen Carney (12/1) remain hovering in that mid-danger zone, though neither has seen dramatic movement.”
“One notable mover is George Clarke, whose elimination odds have ballooned out from 100/1 to 33/1, alongside Lewis Cope at 50/1, signalling that punters believe both are safe heading into this weekend – but not as safe as last weekend.”
Last week, Vicki Pattison was the one to wave goodbye to the dancefloor along with partner Kai Widdrington.
Strictly Come Dancing judges Craig Revel Horwood, Anton Du Beke, Motsi Mabuse and Shirley Ballas left viewers split down the middle on Sunday’s show, with some fans of the BBC series left furious.
The results show saw the panel having to choose between Ms Pattison and Ms Sopal, who received the fewest votes and faced the dreaded dance-off.
BBC Strictly: Vicky Pattison was embraced by her co-stars after being eliminated on Sunday | BBC
Both celebrities finished bottom of the leaderboard for week eight, despite both couples achieving a respectable score of 27 from the judges.
Ms Pattison had performed a jive with Mr Widdrington to Sound of The Underground by Girls Aloud, while Ms Sopal and partner Julian Caillon danced an American Smooth to My Guy by Mary Wells.
Following the dance-off, the panel were unanimous in their decision to save the soap star, with each of them noting how Ms Pattison had made several mistakes while Ms Sopal had improved on her performance from Saturday night.
Viewers were left divided over the result, with many baffled to see Ms Pattison eliminated after one dance-off, while Ms Sopal has now survived being in the bottom two four times.
Many took to social media to debate the outcome, with one writing: “Aww Vicky you were great, wrong decision again #Strictly.”
BBC Strictly: Balvinder Sopal could be at risk again this weekend
| BBCOthers agreed with the judges though, with one posting: “It was the correct result, Balvinder danced better, simple as that #Strictly.”
“Glad Balvinder saved. She definitely improved in the dance off #Strictly,” another agreed.
A different fan commented: “Bal absolutely locked in and smashed that dance off, the correct decision as poor Vicky was clearly nervous and out of sync.
“I’m very happy and very sad at the same time though. Blackpool week won’t be the same without her.
This Morning viewers divided as Peter Andre’s wife Emily promotes new children’s book
Emily is no stranger to publishing a children’s book
Fans of This Morning were left with mixed opinions after Peter Andre’s wife Emily appeared on the ITV show.
On Tuesday morning (August 19), Emily Andre joined hosts Craig Doyle and Sian Welby to promote her new children’s book, Incredible Things Your Body Can Do!.
After splitting from Katie Price in 2009, Peter found love in doctor Emily, who he married in 2015. They have since started a family of their own, welcoming daughters Amelia, 11, and Arabella, one, and son Theo, eight.
Emily and Peter Andre have been married since 2015 (Credit: Splashnews.com)
36-year-old Emily is no stranger to writing a children’s book, having published Growing Up for Girls and Growing Up for Boys. She also wrote a book to help young kids with their mental health, Healthy Mind, Happy You: How to Take Care of Your Mental Health.
Her latest, however, is a book for girls on what to expect when growing up as their bodies evolve and change.
Despite her experience of being a children’s author, it appears not all viewers were sold.
Viewers were divided over Emily’s This Morning appearance (Credit: ITV)
‘It’s unfair how many talented writers go unnoticed’
“Great, a children’s book ‘written’ by a non-famous person,” one user wrote on X.
“Another one who has got a book deal because of who they are, not on merit,” another person shared.
“It’s unfair how many talented writers go unnoticed simply because they don’t have celebrity status. Countless authors are struggling to get published or recognised, while celebrity books get all the spotlight,” a third remarked.
“Get her off she’s boring me,” a fourth said.
“Oh god, she’s so boring Dr Emily,” a fifth person expressed.
‘She’s a different class’
However, many also appeared to be fans.
“Wish I could have a doc like doctor Emily. I wonder what star sign she is,” one person said, to which someone replied: “She’s a Leo, August 16th, like myself. She’s honest, which is a good thing.”
“Peter Andre’s wife is different class isn’t she,” another echoed.
“Just realised. Princess is her stepdaughter. She must be so proud,” a third stated.
Kelly Brook has reflected on the heartbreaking moment she lost her baby when she was six months pregnant.
The presenter, 45, who is due to enter the I’m A Celebrity jungle, fell pregnant in 2011, while with former fiancé and Scottish rugby player Thom Evans.
Speaking on the How To Fail With Elizabeth Day podcast, Kelly said the ‘horrific’ loss was so scarring, it left her never wanting to try for a baby again.
She said: ‘In my thirties, I got pregnant and it was with somebody that I hadn’t been with for very long, and it was really a case of like, “well, I’m in my thirties. This might be my last roll of the dice. Maybe I should just do this.
‘He’s a nice guy, maybe this is it. Maybe it’s that whole taxi light thing goes off and this is what we’re going to do”.
Kelly said Thom really wanted to have a baby and that she while she was initially hesitant about becoming mother due to her own relationship with her mum, she was soon excited.
She continued: ‘Lo and behold I had a miscarriage at six months, which was the most traumatic, horrific thing that I’ve ever been through. It was just the most devastating thing.
‘It took me quite a long time for my body and for everything to kind of, I don’t think you ever fully recover from that, but our relationship didn’t survive that and I just had to pick myself back up and just move forward.’
Kelly was in a relationship with Thom, 40, for two years before they split in 2013.
The model met her Jeremy Parisi, 40, in 2015 and they married in 2022, while Thom is engaged to Nicole Scherzinger.
The couple met in 2019 on Celebrity X Factor, where Nicole was a judge and Thom was part of a boyband.
Kelly said she is so ‘traumatised’, she never wants to go through falling pregnant again.
She added: ‘I just thought, “it’s not in my world, I just don’t want to go through that again”.’
Kelly said she went through the birth of her baby as she didn’t want any medical intervention.
The presenter said to process her grief, she decided not to name her baby.
She told Elizabeth: ‘I didn’t have a name, and at that point I didn’t want to have a name.
‘So it’s just a way of me coping and I know so many women deal with this in so many different ways, and I was told that I would regret that and I should really have a name and I should have footprints and all of these hand prints and all of these things and I just chose not to.
‘At the time, miscarriage wasn’t something we talked about. It really wasn’t something we talked about.
‘It was something that you hid away. It felt like you’d failed. It was very shameful.’
Kelly said out of respect for Jeremy, she treats the loss like a miscarriage.
She said: ‘Even though it was more than that, I have to treat it like a miscarriage because it’s the only way I can cope because I just don’t know how I could get through every day if I didn’t.’
Kelly added she felt guilty she didn’t act the same as others who had gone through the same, deciding not to mark the occasion every year or give her baby a name.
She said: ‘I’d see women in the public eye and they did have names for their babies and they do mark the occasion every year and they do this and I don’t do that.
‘I felt like, “is there something wrong with me? Is there something missing? Do I not have empathy? Is there nothing inside?”
‘And it’s actually nothing to do with that because I’m still here and I’ve got to face every day and get through every day. I have to do what I have to do to get through every day.’
Elizabeth told her: ‘I’m so sorry for you and I’m so struck by that phrase that it was something you and the baby had to go through together and that for me makes you a mother.
‘There are so many different ways to mother and parent in this world, and that’s how you show up.
‘There’s so much misplaced shame that women carry that you’ve expressed so powerfully there. I’m really sorry that you had to deal with that as well and you are right, it wasn’t spoken about very much at all.’
